The Cabin in the Woods 2012 ★★

Watched Apr 12, 2012

Seeing as we're not supposed to be spoiler-y on this thing lest we offend the horde, I will use this space mostly to work out my feelings on Joss Whedon.

I'm not a fan. I've seen a lot of Buffy, just a bit of Angel, just a bit of Firefly (apathetic), Serenity (just cause), Dr Horrible (apathetic). I like Alien 4 for Jeunet mostly.

I heard it opined once that theres a couple kinds of male nerds. One is the manboy who likes metal, hard sci fi, robots... he's still a nerd but he likes his swords and his boobs. Then there's the more effeminate wussy nerd who likes cutesy Nintendo stuff, and anime, Death Cab for Cutie, and loves him some Joss Whedon. This is an offensive simplification but if there is any truth to be had here, I'm surely in the former camp.

I feel like Whedon is the Ryan Murphy of nerd culture. Catty, campy, with an obnoxious LA sheen over everything. He's too concerned with switcheroos and obvious callbacks. Even his jocks and sluts are catty. For me his characters run together more than Kevin Smith's can, always speaking in the authors voice, but unlike Smith, reeking of an overabundance of effort, and overacting instead of not acting. And like Murphy, the quality of his writing from episode to episode, project to project, varies VERY widely. I can't connect with his characters, his casting gravitating to plastic people he can toss in whatever clothes supposedly fit the broad character archetype he is aiming for. Their line readings are almost always overrehearsed, the dialogue is decidedly mass appeal but never hit my sweet spot, as I always see the ironically distant wink, and always see how much better they could be if he brought in naturally funny people to elevate them, rather than hope against hope that his models will be funny.

Even his skeevy loser stoner is a model dreamboat he's just shoved into the right clothes, tossing a joint in his mouth and saying "Yep, done!" - This guy - www.lostinthemultiplex.com/images/fran-kranz.jpg - Doesn't he just scream skeevy stoner you guys? Right? People complain about Michael Bay's Maxim model casting, but don't speak up about Whedon. Why? Because his models are sensitive?

SPOILER STUFF STARTS NOW:

And Cabin in the Woods is packed with these jokes, undermining any tension or frightening elements, just barely elevating itself over the usual witless horror movie bullshit. Being a subversive horror movie should not come at the price of the horror no longer being horrific. Scream managed to pull it off, but this fails hard. For all the mystery of what is being concealed in the cabin, it's just another meta-horror-comedy. After 4 Scream films,New Nightmare, Behind the Mask, Shaun of the Dead, Zombieland, Rubber, Tucker and Dale, countless Simpsons Halloween specials, and more... it's getting tired, and CITW offers nothing new other than attaching it to the increasingly stale Truman Show/reality show format. (In horror specifically apparently this has been done in 2002's My Little Eye and the late 00s show "Persons Unknown", but I have not watched either and can't properly compare)

Through the first 2 acts, CITW doesn't make comedic associations to the tropes through seemingly unrelated events (as in Shaun of the Dead), it just bluntly lets its characters point out the cliches as they happen. Once it has smarmed its way through yet another zombie spoof (with uncreative kills and bad looking zombies), Whedon and Goddard up the ante by turning it into EVERY horror movie. I got some mild amusement here by the sheer excess of it all, but at the same time, through the Whedon filter it still comes across as much more tame than warranted, and is really just Whedon playing out the horror version of South Park's Imaginationland episode. About the only thing I found truly funny were references to Japanese horror, where I suppose he was required to cast outside the American Apparel rolodex.

And in the end of course like other Whedon stuff this localized hellmouth of a cabin is really an OMG WORLD CONSPIRACY with everything at stake that climaxes with a really shitty cameo that is even more offensive if you were one of the dozen people who saw a certain meta-alien-comedy last year.

What's weird through all of this is that sometimes the characters matter, and sometimes they are clearly 2nd banana to genre nerd inside jokes and subversion. Whedon and Goddard can't make up their mind about if we should be caring for any of these people. At one point our main character is brutally assaulted on a video screen while the control room parties away. The character's journey becomes a joke. This kind of stuff is probably the biggest problem with the movie. I don't feel like I was given a fair shake at being invested in anyone. When it comes to character, Cabin in the Woods isn't really about anything. Shaun of the Dead wasn't just about zombie tropes, it was about modern routine, growing up. and taking charge. Cabin in the Woods is about congratulating yourself for noticing already-observed and obvious cliches, and eventually tossing them all into a gimmick battle royale. That's not a game-changer, that's just fantasy football.

So yeah yeah yeah, I'm outside the majority here, again, but come on folks. If this is progressive horror filmmaking, then modern horror really is in the shitter. Everything has to be found footage or a meta commentary on its cliches. I'm sure by Paranormal Activity 6 we'll have our meta-commentary on that too... or did Scream 4 already cover that? I don't know, I skipped that for good reasons. Cabin in the Woods is not offensively bad, it's just so safe, and so typically Whedon, and that's offensive enough for my taste.

WATCH THIS INSTEAD: Community season 2 episode 6 "Epidemiology" (The zombie episode)

30 Comments

  • I don't know. I'm incurring some wrath on this one. I don't know if thats the Whedonite cult or if I've just hit my limit of acceptable popular movies to dislike within a certain time period.

  • Yes this movie is self-congratulatory and full of inside jokes intended to give your inner nerd a "husband bulge" but I still had fun. I guess I don't take going to the pictures as seriously as some.

  • "At one point our main character is brutally assaulted on a video screen while the control room parties away. The character's journey becomes a joke."

    To me, this kind of sums up how hard you missed the point of the movie. The character's journey in no way becomes a joke; the moment is meant to underscore the real horror of the situation, that everyone involved sees it as something so banal and everyday. It's funny, in a dark, twisted way. It's also more than a little disturbing.

    I don't even want to get into the "offensive simplification" point of the review. Except that, yeah. It's a simplification and it's offensive. If you realized that, perhaps you should have thought of a less lazy way to get your point across.

  • And AJ, one of the biggest backers of this movie, Devin over at CHUD, posits that the control room guys are the heroes, so if you were to agree, how does that fit into your argument? badassdigest.com/2012/04/13/up-for-discussion-the-cabin-in-the-woods/

    As for the latter, I think you're reading too much into it and are looking for an insult If I'm insulting one side of nerd culture I'm surely also insulting the other, and myself. Of course there's overlap, shades of grey, etc. I noted myself it was a simplification, merely to try to work out the possibility that Whedon is part of a side of nerd culture I am less interested in, that possibly all of my problems with the movie are merely a matter of taste.

  • Anyways, point is I'm standing by my argument that the scene in question points out how incredibly unbalanced this film is between humor and character storytelling.

    But I'm sure it's a waste of time trying to convince you that there'd be any flaws here, since your own review explicitly states any mention of Mutant Enemy makes you 'squeal with glee'.. Also indicates why you would be so quick to assume the worst motives of my 'offensive simplification'

  • Oh, and finally, your point: "the moment is meant to underscore the real horror of the situation, that everyone involved sees it as something so banal and everyday. It's funny, in a dark, twisted way. It's also more than a little disturbing."

    I got it. It doesn't change what I wrote: it undermines the character's journey, makes it all a big joke, all for humor and rubbing my face in more genre subversion that I never found funny. it puts the joke ahead of the character, and is yet another scene showing Whedon/Goddard can't make up their mind about if we should care about any of these people.

  • It's perfectly fine for you not to like the movie, and for us to disagree. In your review, it honestly didn't sound like you got the point of the scene in question.

    I'm not sure why you're linking to Devin's review since I never brought up the issue of whether or not the control guys were the heroes of the film. I don't believe they are, but that's a different discussion.

    It is not a waste of time trying to convince me there are any flaws here. I'm a huge Joss Whedon fan, but I don't enjoy the man's work blindly. I just disagree with the flaws you've pointed out. Which is fine, but again, from your review, it sounded like you missed the intent. I believe you got it, that's just not how it read.

    As you stand by your point, I stand by mine: if, as you're writing something, you take the time to admit it's an "offensive simplification," then perhaps you shouldn't include it. It's lazy and reductive, not just for the Whedon side of the hypothetical, but the other side as well.

  • I avoided your review til after seeing it. What really did for it in the UK is the 'game changer' comments i kept seeing, even on the poster cdn.mos.totalfilm.com/images/u/uk-exclusive-poster-for-the-cabin-in-the-woods-79716-01-470-75.jpg

    The game wasn't changed. I didn't even want to begin to deconstruct this in any detail, thanks for doing so though.

  • I enjoyed the hell out of this, even despite its more excessive moments. One small point regarding the cameo: this film was shot six months before the other film you mentioned, then tied up for three years while MGM considered 3D conversion, and then went under. That small part might have played out differently were it not for that.

  • On the nerd debate, a truth I've realised is that geeks are aware of their geekery, can function amongst the 'normal people' and revel in it with a lightness of heart whereas nerds have no idea they're so nerdy, have few social skills and take it all VERY SERIOUSLY.

    If this is true, I'm a badge wearing geek with honours.

    As for Whedon, I'm not a fan of his TV shows but this guy co-wrote Toy Story, cleaned up Speed, and this year alone gave us Cabin and The Avengers. In the movie world, he's doing better (Alien Resurrection aside but, well we all have the odd turkey!).

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