Courage now, truth always...
The Dark Knight of Gotham City confronts a dastardly duo: Two-Face and the Riddler. Formerly District Attorney Harvey Dent, Two-Face believes Batman caused the courtroom accident which left him disfigured on one side. And Edward Nygma, computer-genius and former employee of millionaire Bruce Wayne, is out to get the philanthropist; as The Riddler. Former circus acrobat Dick Grayson, his family killed by Two-Face, becomes Wayne's ward and Batman's new partner Robin.
Part 4 of my Batmanathon
Oh boy, this is certainly a step down, isn’t it? I went in with a completely open mind. I am by no means a Joel Schumacher hater, and even like some of his films quite a bit (Phone Booth in particular, don’t judge me). However, I do remember not liking the film when I first saw it but after the first 3 instalments of my Batmanathon going so well, I was genuinely ready to love this movie.
Alas, love it I did not.
Now, what is actually the problem with Batman Forever? On the surface it kind of resembles the Burton films which I liked so much, it has the comic book humour that made…
This film is one of the reasons I used to hate comic book adaptations.
Relax! It's not THAT bad.
Not a good Batman film.
Schumacher was a very poor choice to replace Burton.
Everything he added to the franchise hurt the franchise. It's almost as if he brought back the 60's TV series-Burton's films certainly used some elements from the series but he took it in a new exciting direction.
I didn't like any of the sets or models that were used. The overuse of colors just didn't work-even Two-Face's henchmen had orange glowing machine guns-dumb idea.
Kilmer DID play Bruce Wayne better than Keaton did but as Batman he felt the same.
Tommy Lee Jones looked like he was having a ball playing Two-Face-it's just the script-it's terrible! Such horrible lines of dialogue. And for crying out loud…
Unlike the Tim Burton movies, this one is actually about Bruce Wayne/Batman! So much so, even, that there's a weird close up of Batman's buttcheeks at one point.
The story is a lot better this time around. The dialogue is probably about the same amount of bad, though. And Nicole Kidman as a love interest is just as forced as it was with Kim Basinger. Robin is a little dickhead, stealing the Batmobile and sneaking around Wayne Manor. I don't see how the audience was supposed to like or care about him. And what kind of guy adopts a full-grown man, anyway?
Joel Schumaker's color scheme is weird, but at least it fits the campiness of the film.
June Summer Movie Blockbuster Challenge:
June 2nd choice: Batman Forever 1995
Chris Nolan's Batman Forever is a timeless summer movie blockbuster. It's his best Batman film by far and Jim Carrey's The Riddler out tops Heath Ledger's Joker by a landslide.
Christian Bale has never been better as Bruce Wayne in Batman Forever, he even goes so far as to dye his hair blonde and get facial surgery to resemble actor Val Kilmer. As always Michael Caine is a top performer and is the only living actor who can play Alfred. Joeseph Gordon Levitt also stars as Robin and does an outstanding performance as the boy wonder.
Batman Forever is Nolan's best of the Batman trilogy, anyone thinking other wise doesn't know any thing about the Batman franchise.
First film i watched from the $20 blu batman collection I just purchased. A little better than I remember if only bc Val Kilmer actually tries to put in a good performance and Jim Carrey is so over the top you almost have to applaud the energy it took. Also better when you've seen Batman and Robin in the past 6 months and can put this into perspective.
Was Jones trying to out joker the Joker? Between this and Nolan's Batman I have no idea how Two Face's character is supposed to be. Carrey was particularly horrendous (not that anyone else was that much better). Just a nitpick, but what the fuck at putting underwear on Michelangelo's David?
You know what’s interesting, the fact that the Riddler is trying to steal peoples brain power by hoisting 3D on everyone. It feels oddly like a snap shot on the film industry from a few years ago. That coming from a person who likes a 3D film here and there.
Some parts of this movie feel so right and some feel so wrong. I found myself enjoying the conversations between Bruce Wayne, Chase Meridian Alfred and Robin, more than I did the Batman action stuff. Most of the action scenes don’t really feel right to me. Not really well thought out, and some look like they were shot in front of a green screen.
I still feel like Val Kilmer…
Es un refrito de las dos anteriores, cogiendo sus personajes más destacados como el Joker y Catwoman e impulsándolos mucho más a la locura y al putiferio.
Jim esta de lo más explotado, con un personaje instridente y mamarracho. Y Nicole esta como una simple puta, con un personaje que podía dar mucho más de si.
Tommy es como si fuera una especie de Joker mezclado con Pingüino pero sin el carisma de ninguno de los dos.
Lo mejor es Robin, y la verdad es que Val esta más creíble como Batman que Keaton (aunque Val es peor actor, deberian coger la actuacion de Keaton y ponerle el cuerpo de Val), pero en contra el personaje de Batman esta repetitivo…
Not the worst movie in the franchise but awfully close. Batman & Robin has that honor. This started the downhill slide with the introduction of Robin. Carrey was perfectly cast as The Riddler though. A more talented director with a better script could have made a much better film. A redeeming quality for me would be The Flaming Lips got a song on the soundtrack and, for a few brief moments, into the film.
Batman must confront foes Two-Face and The Riddler in this sequel, which was meant to revive the franchise after the dreary, unpopular Batman Returns. So the visuals are candy-coloured (though the film is artlessly shot), and the tone mostly upbeat. Batman Forever actually does a better job of managing its many characters than its predecessor did, but the stupid, stupid dialogue and undistinguished action scenes are too steep a price to pay for a more coherent structure.
Val Kilmer barely registers in the title role. Tommy Lee Jones is given nothing to do as Two-Face and ends up as merely a dull rerun of Jack Nicholson's Joker. But Jim Carrey, who was born to portray a comic book villain, plays the demented Riddler with convinction.