There are two things I like the most in this life:
Horror Movies and Comic Books, in that order.
The Dark Knight of Gotham City confronts a dastardly duo: Two-Face and the Riddler. Formerly District Attorney Harvey Dent, Two-Face believes Batman caused the courtroom accident which left him disfigured on one side. And Edward Nygma, computer-genius and former employee of millionaire Bruce Wayne, is out to get the philanthropist; as The Riddler. Former circus acrobat Dick Grayson, his family killed by Two-Face, becomes Wayne's ward and Batman's new partner Robin.
Looks like I'm in the minority when it comes to this film. I actually really enjoyed Batman Forever. Sure it's over the top, silly, and has no real substance. But I had a surprisingly good time watching it. I enjoyed the heck out of Jim Carrey as The Riddler and Tommy Lee Jones as Two-Face; even though they were both cheesy. However, I can totally understand why someone would not like this film.
"Was that over the top? I can never tell."
Batman Forever is more of an extension of Burton's two Gothic tragedy pieces than many realize, both in their joyous, external depictions of internally traumatized villains and in the continuous back and forth progression of campy banter. Schumacher, while hired to veer the series back into kid-friendly territory, also understood that after Batman Returns, an eerie, haunting exploration of various wounds and fetishes, nothing could top it. Instead director Schumacher and Michael Keaton replacement Val Kilmer shake an already strange depiction of Gotham City and infuse neon sights, homoerotic overtones, and an icy pitch-black layer of overblown goofiness to mix with Burton's original character foundation.
It is in many aspects…
"Does anyone else feel like a fried egg?"
sublimely tacky, but there's very little here that doesn't have precedent in Burton's installments, and it's inarguably just as technically polished, as if the old TV show had, like, $18,000 papier-mâché rocks and state-of-the-art miniature work. i'm no longer able to see this as intrinsically awful, even if i don't particularly care for Schumacher's approach (also i think a lot of the supposedly legendary awfulness is some ugly "no homo" bullshit).
if they ever put Schwarzenegger in something like this, i might never stop laughing.
An almost-offensive step backward from Tim Burton's excellent "Batman" and "Batman Returns," Joel Schumacher's "Batman Forever" expunges the franchise's authentic darkness, weight, and soul in exchange for neon colors, overwrought silliness, and superficial spectacle. Reducing Bob Kane's cape and cowl wearing crime fighter and his shadow-concealed heroism to a plastic, studio-scrubbed superhero works in terms of building a crowd-pleasing antidote to Burton's elegant esoterica, but it does not create anything with depth or resonance. Still, Schumacher's film is committed to its new direction and is able to entertain despite its frustrating emptiness.
Beginning with winky one-liners and scenery-chewing characters, "Batman Forever" instantly begins down a new tonal path. It is, once again, an operatic superhero outing, but the narrative eschews…
Riddle me this: How can such a formidable movie like Batman Returns be followed by such a piece of overacted crap? Whilst I recognize that Joel Schumacher's Batman films are low hanging fruit when it comes to mockery, I must say Batman Forever fully deserves it. Let's break down its inherent shittiness by spotlighting the awfully characterized parade of over-the-top idiots Schumacher tortures the audience with in order to highlight what I hated most about this film (Hint: Its the characters, I'm not the fucking Riddler)
*Speaking of him, let's start with the aforementioned Riddler (sigh). Granted the Riddler is a problematic character. His shtick of leaving hints in form of riddles is…
Much like everyone has their own James Bond movie, the one they fondly remember from childhood, most people roughly 30 & under doubtless have their own Batman movie and, without question, Batman Forever was mine. After at least a decade since last watching this, I was immediately transported back to the 13 year old callow youth mesmerised in the cinema as Elliot Goldenthal's rousing Bat-theme blasted in as the names of Val Kilmer, Tommy Lee Jones et al raced at us across the screen in typically overblown theatrical fashion, in many ways setting the tone for everything that follows. I loved Batman Forever when I was 13. Do I love it now? Maybe a little. Do I think Joel Schumacher made…
Just takin my medicine.
This is one of those big blockbusters that make absolutely no sense to me. Who read this script and decided to greenlight the movie?
The tone is all over the plays, the plot has more holes than actual plot and the character developments over the film rarely make any sense. Even the highly esteemed female scientist is merely there to show us that the Batman has a raging case of the not-gays, phew, guess we don't have to worry about him and Robin now.
The best part of this movie are the occasional good scenes with Jim Carreys Riddler playing around twirling his Riddle Stick (let's call it that, okay?). Sure, he goes overboard with the character too often and some of the lines are just plain out of place in this movie but he is the greatest redeeming factor, and that's saying a lot. What a load of crap this was.
I'm less and less appalled by the campiness that the filmmakers ardently strived for in Batman Forever, if for no other reason than the performance of Jim Carrey as The Riddler. His specific talent matches the tone and style of this movie perfectly. I wouldn't want to see it tamed down in the least. In a general sense, there is waaaaay too much maniacal laughter in this movie, but that's not Carrey's fault. It's Tommy Lee Jones' fault. This ain't Two-Face. Apparently Jones was deeply bothered by Carrey's work, going as far as telling him "I cannot sanction your buffoonery" (solid diss). He clearly tried to match his energy in an effort to not get blown off screen. What he…
И близко не так плохо, как я запомнил. Первый из шумахеровских Бэтменов действительно чего то стоит. Однако второй фильм (Batman and Robin) это катастрофа, которая навсегда останется пятном на репутации этого героя.
Абсолютно кэмповый и неоновый Batman Forever ещё не раз будет мною пересмотрен. Кстати, по этому фильму существует комикс с шикарной рисовкой, который я читал в физическом формате. Наверно поэтому очень многие образы этого фильма так ярко отпечатались в моей памяти.
Вэл Килмер весьма неплох в роли Брюса Уэйна. Немного флэтлайновый у него получился портрет миллионера днём и супер-героя ночью. Но местами его сдержанность смотрелась очень здорово.
Образ двуликого в этом фильме мне очень нравится. Безумный, цветастый и неудержимый. Они с Джимом Керри (Загадочник) составили неплохой дуэт фриков в этой кавалькаде абсурда и феерверков.
Но не один абсурд свойственен этому фильму. Я нашёл несколько отличных находок в арке взаимоотношений Бэтмена и Робина. Например символизм циркового номера, зеркально отражающийся в финальной сцене где Бэтс ловит своего напарника. Гуд стаф.
I thought Val Kilmer was actually very good as Batman but the mix of bad directing from Schumacher, poor set pieces and way too over the top insane villains just makes this awful, it actually makes me quite sad that Kilmer had to be ruined by this.
This is my favorite Burtonverse Batman movie and I don't care who knows it.
"Oh, but Val Kilmer sucks. It's so Nineties. Jim Carrey is too--"
YOU SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT JIM CARREY, he is gold and you know it. This is the best possible Batman movie you could make in 1995.
But seriously, watch BF again and imagine that Bruce Wayne is struggling with his bisexuality. RIGHT? SEE? Gay Batman is the oldest trope in the book, but Bi Bat is a legitimately neat frame of reference.
You think I'm wrong for loving this flick? SPANK ME.
(BET HE LIKES THE NEXT ONE TOO, WHAT A DIPSHIT)
It's a weird experience watching this film now. Along with STAR WARS and several other VHS staples around our house, BATMAN FOREVER is one of if not the film I've seen the most in my life, though this is the first time I've watched it in maybe 15 years. But beyond that fact, this is the film I remember the experience of watching the most: the 12 inch TV, the ever-growing VHS fuzz, me in my darkened bedroom, sitting way too close. It's the one film where the details around the film are as engrained as every punch and punchline.
Watching again, I get why that is so; the film is a crackling of bells and whistles, more a catalog…
Yeah, I know. WTF was I thinking? Here's the thing - my kids can only take so much of the 60s series, and of all the live action features, the Schumacher ones are the most kid-friendly. Great for them, but bad, ultimately, for this timeline in the Bat-franchise.
I never liked this film much and like it even less now. It's horribly directed as an action film. There's something obviously fake in almost every shot. They have a great bunch of actors assembled, but for all the wrong reasons. Jim Carrey and Chris O'Donnell seemed to be the only ones that belonged in this movie. And I know Robin Williams was considered for Riddler, but in the messed up environment…
In the murky depths of his audio-commentary for St. Elmo's Fire, recorded in the year 2000, Joel Schumacher said this (emphasis mine):
"...but, you know, I think there's too much expectation sometimes in characters in movies to have perfect behavior, and I find it quite boring myself. I don't know anyone who has perfect behavior. I know people who pretend they have perfect behavior. I'm much more interested in our strengths and our weeknesses combined. I think we are strong and weak at the same time, I think we're terrified and courageous, I think we are selfish and unselfish, and you know, I can go on and on, as many more intelligent, more interesting people than me have said in…
There are two things I like the most in this life:
Horror Movies and Comic Books, in that order.
Every film that has ever been nominated for an Academy Award in any category. Enjoy!
Not another list of the last five Marvel movies, but an attempt at creating The Superhero List To End All…