Some Kind of Wonderful 1987 ★★★½

Rewatched Jul 11, 2012

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  • Apparently Hughes was pressured to complete Pretty in Pink with Molly Ringwald ending up with the rich guy, not her best friend (rumor is that they even shot the other ending) and he was so pissed off that he went on to make Some Kind of Wonderful so he could get the ending he wanted.

  • Wow! Seriously? He would hardly have needed to change the script at all. Well played, that man.

    I was a bit disappointed for Duckie in Pretty in Pink. The ending was a bit trite considering the amount of investment he'd made.

    He was a frankly annoying character, though (as is Watts, in Some Kind of Wonderful), so it makes sense that Andie (Ringwald) would never entertain the idea of dating him. He's an embarrassment. What was Kristy Swanson thinking? (BTW, on IMDB, she's credited as 'Duckette'. Awesome.)

    It comes back to the fact that Watts has nothing to offer, except loyalty and love. She's a puppy dog, but an insufferably bitchy one. Despite your personal preferences regarding Mary Stuart Masterson and Lea Thompson, it's stated explicitly in the film several times that Watts is less desirable. They mock her body, her clothes and her hair. She frequently demonstrates that she's conscious of being physically inferior to Amanda Jones (Lea Thompson).

    The idea that Keith (Eric Stolz) would throw over the perfect and hard-won Amanda for the pesky, bitchy, whiny and unattractive Watts is pretty far fetched.

    There's an interesting message, told twice in this film - if you want something enough, you'll get it if you just whine and bitch and carry on. The object of your desire will fall at your feet as soon as you stop caring. I'm not sure it's a healthy message.

  • Related: watch the Miss Representation documentary! All about the representation of women in the media: archetypes, behavior patterning etc.

  • There is some pretty intense male chauvinism in this film. The girls yum that shit up. Watts even tells Keith that Amanda probably loves being cheated on by her nasty boyfriend. 1987 was an interesting time for feminism. Watts tells a would-be suitor that "This is 1987. Women can be anything they want." He replies "I know. My mother's a plumber."

    How did we get from there to where we are now?

  • To be honest, after watching that doco last night, I would argue we've gone backwards :-(

    Most (US) legislation for equal rights, pay etc were done in the 1960s. Nothing changed, legally, since about 1973.

  • That doesn't sound like a very balanced documentary. Is it one of Mike Moore's?

    Anecdotally, I'd say that women in our culture are shown more respect now than they were in the 60s and 70s, and even the 80s. That's not to say that it's a solved problem...

  • In both films the most important women get who THEY want and the guy pretty much goes along for the ride, so to speak. Personally I thought MSM wasn't undesirable, but Lea was smoking hot. How my namesake could not chose Lea is a travesty, but I still like the film a lot.

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